Silence
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Haveunique Instructor
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Procyona
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Well yes, any kind of privacy is mayor thing for human health: if you cannot be alone when you need to, it can affect big time. But even in extreme cases you can learn to not care about the noise and take a refuge in your mind.   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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I think a person need these silent moments to ponder over reality, what's happening, make some decisions without rushing. And it's not like we have a lot of these moments to actually stop and think of what's happening, we're always trying to move somewhere, to do something, as if we're hurried along the line to some goal or without it.   _________________ What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger. - F. Nietzshe
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Procyona
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Gra-ach писал(а): | I think a person need these silent moments to ponder over reality, what's happening, make some decisions without rushing. And it's not like we have a lot of these moments to actually stop and think of what's happening, we're always trying to move somewhere, to do something, as if we're hurried along the line to some goal or without it. |
And maybe that is why we need about eight hours of sleep every night   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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Gra-ach
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I think it's different: sleep and being alone. It's completely different feeling when you're calm (I mean all of you is calm, your mind is silent, your body is relaxed and your thoughts are either silent or they drift on their own) and when you're sleeping (you don't know what's going on in your mind at this point). And depending on the quality of your sleeping you may feel much more relaxed after being on your own when no one disturbs your solitude.   _________________ What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger. - F. Nietzshe
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Being alone and sleeping are different things, you are right at that. But, they are both times when the brain arranges the things it has, more or less outside the rush of the normal day. Even though I cannot know what goes on my head during sleep, it is not actively working on making something concreate. The difference between being alone and sleeping is indeed how aware you can be of the process.
But, being alone does not neccesarily mean you are calm either.   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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Maybe, or maybe it's a peace and calmness within you.   _________________ What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger. - F. Nietzshe
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So, silence is not just the outside, but inside. I like that idea Then it would not neccesarily depend on where you are, but how you are there.   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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Silence can be also the slowness of the inner dialog, or the feeling of flow, where you concentrate purely on one thing only. In this state the mind might be slow, but actions can be fast. Indeed a nice state to be in.
And I'd say that peace and calmness go together with slow or non-dialog mind.   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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Procyona писал(а): | So, silence is not just the outside, but inside. I like that idea Then it would not neccesarily depend on where you are, but how you are there. |
Well, I think this inner silence is sometimes (or most of the times) more important than outer Noone can really get inside your head if you don't permit them and it's so much more relaxing to just be and enjoy your being   _________________ What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger. - F. Nietzshe
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Gra-ach писал(а): | Procyona писал(а): | So, silence is not just the outside, but inside. I like that idea Then it would not neccesarily depend on where you are, but how you are there. |
Well, I think this inner silence is sometimes (or most of the times) more important than outer Noone can really get inside your head if you don't permit them and it's so much more relaxing to just be and enjoy your being |
Indeed, and it is not just to be taken for granted! It is the best feeling when you can just be aware of yourself and accept every thing you are, inside and outside.
And sometimes it helps to find inner silence when you have outside silence as well. At least when you are learning to find it.   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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Валентина Слободянюк Instructor
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If you can focus on one thing, for example on your breath, you can observe the silence inside for some time. even if something bothers you from outside.   _________________ www.facebook.com/wingchun.ua   |
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Thank you for the tip Valentina. Following the breath is sometimes used in meditation as well, and that, the way I understood it, is indeed a search for inner peace and quiet.
For me, the method to find silence depends on what causes the noice in the first place. If the noice is from inside, I can calm down by seeing the surroundings. If the noice is from outside, then concentrating on myself is better. Combining both works even better   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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Валентина Слободянюк Instructor
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For me - concentration on my breath is the concentration on my body, on me. when the beginner (and not only beginners, of course) starts to work on fast speed in wing chun, he usually hold his breath, the tension grows, he (or better - we) forgets about the opponents elbows, becomes nervous, irritated and he already see nothing around (a front of) him. and do not observe his own reactions. there is no silence inside without the continuous respiration, I think   _________________ www.facebook.com/wingchun.ua   |
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