What does my gut tell me?
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Gra-ach
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What I've noticed is when I know where I want to end up eventually and don't concentrate on where I'm going I end up in the right place. On the other hand, when I start without concentrating and then start paying attention to where I'm going I may lose the sense of direction and I wouldn't know where to go next and I may get lost, because I will be unable to relax enough to find the right way again.   _________________ What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger. - F. Nietzshe
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Haveunique писал(а): | Paradoxically, as it sounds, I think you pinned it right, Milla! Besides, how can we keep in mind the "end" if it is a new thing we're working on? |
Exactly! If one concentrates too much on the end, the presence becomes quite blurred.
Paradoxically, Gra-ach, I think you are also right, even though it may seems to be in contrary with what Tetyana says. But there it may be how one works with motivation: If one has none, going anywhere is pretty aimless.
Talking about this contradiction, what makes me wonder the most, is that if make myself happy in the moment, how could I motivate myself forward? If I make any point along the way good enough, why would I want to go further?   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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Procyona писал(а): | Haveunique писал(а): | Paradoxically, as it sounds, I think you pinned it right, Milla! Besides, how can we keep in mind the "end" if it is a new thing we're working on? |
Exactly! If one concentrates too much on the end, the presence becomes quite blurred.? |
Theoretically, if you're doing something you at least have some notion of an end result, maybe you don't want to spell it out loud, but usually you have something in mind. For me it's usually quite blurred, some vague idea of what I'm going to get in the end, some general concept of what I want to get. And this is what I was referring to
Procyona писал(а): | But there it may be how one works with motivation: If one has none, going anywhere is pretty aimless. |
We are always motivated to do something, it depends on our level of development whether it is food or new car Otherwise we'd die and become extinct.
Procyona писал(а): | Talking about this contradiction, what makes me wonder the most, is that if make myself happy in the moment, how could I motivate myself forward? If I make any point along the way good enough, why would I want to go further? |
Usually when I reach a point I like it quickly becomes not enough and I want more. So it's what makes me go further and further still. And when you're really cool (and I mean in a spiritual sense) it's said that a person acquires an irresistable need to share the knowledge with others. And this is what motivates really successful people to keep going.   _________________ What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger. - F. Nietzshe
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Gra-ach писал(а): | Theoretically, if you're doing something you at least have some notion of an end result, maybe you don't want to spell it out loud, but usually you have something in mind. For me it's usually quite blurred, some vague idea of what I'm going to get in the end, some general concept of what I want to get. And this is what I was referring to
We are always motivated to do something, it depends on our level of development whether it is food or new car Otherwise we'd die and become extinct.
Usually when I reach a point I like it quickly becomes not enough and I want more. So it's what makes me go further and further still. And when you're really cool (and I mean in a spiritual sense) it's said that a person acquires an irresistable need to share the knowledge with others. And this is what motivates really successful people to keep going. |
Well, I know that with doing something I am already trying to achieve something. Life without motivation would, well, not be going anywhere. I have been in situations where I have had too many goals - or directions - at the same time, and that's why I feel that the less I have, the better my life feels. With only couple of things dearest, I can better concentrate my power and will on those.   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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Procyona писал(а): | Talking about this contradiction, what makes me wonder the most, is that if make myself happy in the moment, how could I motivate myself forward? If I make any point along the way good enough, why would I want to go further? |
Interesting view, and what happens when a person stops moving forward?   _________________ Не пытайся - делай.
Try not, do.
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The person starts to stagnate and because of that it degrades because everything else is going forward and doesn't wait for people to catch up.   _________________ What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger. - F. Nietzshe
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Hm, when one does not go forward, he or she is not growing either, and stays at the same status. This means the world around starts to look pretty much the same and even somewhat meaningless. And as Gra-ach stated, the world would leave one behind, and one may soon find that he or she is not able to fare anymore, with the ways one used to.
Thank you guys   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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You know, it's like movement in physics. You have a relative movement (which is relative to some marker) and absolute (or whatever it's called in English).
So if you're talking about relative movement and the point of reference is the person in question than if this person stops growing, it stays the same in relation to itself. But if we're talking about relative movement and relation is to the universe (for example), then in the point of view of the universe, the person who stopped growing is going back comparing to the natural pace.
So it depends on your point of view, whether you can actually stop your development or not.   _________________ What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger. - F. Nietzshe
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Stopping seems like an impossible thing to do, especially if you think that there's also the direction of going backwards.   |
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