Tension and pain
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Haveunique писал(а): | Procyona писал(а): | - I cannot sense tension from pain as well as I used to.
| Milla, pain is previously piled up unnecessary tension. |
Thank you, Tetyana. I meant that I do not sense tension that well, beacuse it is not as painful as it used to be.   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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What do you see instead now? And what is the benefit in what you now see? Thank you!
Question to the forum members: how do you benefit from tension and pain?
My answer: pain shows exactly the places where the tension became too much, so getting rid of pain means the unnecessary tension is going away. But to test if this is true, the workload needs to be gradually increased, to see if in a bigger amount of load I still stay relaxed, and find the next discomfort zone   _________________ Не пытайся - делай.
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Procyona писал(а): | Thank you, Tetyana. I meant that I do not sense tension that well, beacuse it is not as painful as it used to be. |
There are two possibilities:
1. you're not as tense as you used to
2. you're used to being tensed that your muscles adapted to this feeling and your pain threshold has risen
Joking, but there's some truth in these two points.
Answering your question, Tanya, I'd say that I use pain to tell me when I'm so tense that I can't go on - and I mean the kind of pain when I overworked the muscles and not when I got hit by something. It shows me what to relax. For exampe, I work a lot in sitting position and sometimes after sitting in the same position all day long I feel that my neck disagrees with this time-table. Which means that my productivity has dropped because I am more concerned about splitting headache and not task at hand.   _________________ What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger. - F. Nietzshe
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When i feel tention it is like an idnex to me to relax the place of tention emmidiately. When it is a pain feeling - it is a signal, that i'm not in the moment "now and here", because if i was, i would let that happend   _________________ Я или никто! Сейчас или никогда!   |
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It can be both of those, Irene
When there is no pain, there can be sensation of tiredness, and some kind of powerful feeling of muscles working. And also the posture affecting to tension. The benefit of seeing these, is at least that when I am able to sense tension before it turn to pain, I can stop it's effects sooner.
Pain tells me if I have used too much effort on moving or standing. The place that hurts is not always the place I need to work on (at least posturewise), but it tells me that I have not paid enough attention to posture and my body in general, and that I have not been aware of them.
Tension, for me, rises from emotions and it affects the body posture. So, if I scan my body I can tell how these emotions affect it. By easining the tension I can be more calm, and not let the emotions affect me as much.   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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Procyona писал(а): | Tension, for me, rises from emotions and it affects the body posture. |
A misperception here, Milla, unnecessary tension in the body and emotions are both reactions to imbalanced use of the self. Sometimes it is pleasant, but when it piles up so much that it distracts from the main goals, extra tensions and overly emotions needs to be balanced. It's all about returning to balance.   _________________ Не пытайся - делай.
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Thank you Tetyana, but isn't it a loop effect instead a one way feedback: Emotion changes the body balance and body balance changes the emotion? At least that is how I see it.   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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Could you spesify why not, Tetyana? Thanks!   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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I went to a applied relaxation session yesterday, and learned I have tensions in my mouth and in the base of scull. And this was just because I keep my teeth together and tongue up! Relaxing the tongue feels weird and funny, I guess I was quite used to the tension. This reminds me how my body is a combined network and that easing tension one place helps to find and easy other tensions.   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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Actually it was one of the points of relaxation seminar I attended. The trainer said that our brain and therefore body is so used to the strain that it doesn't feel it anymore as strain but rather as a "normal" conduct. And if we relieve strain in our body then our mind will feel it too and will apply released resources to other things and this relaxation will spread to ther regions.   _________________ What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger. - F. Nietzshe
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Gra-ach писал(а): | Actually it was one of the points of relaxation seminar I attended. The trainer said that our brain and therefore body is so used to the strain that it doesn't feel it anymore as strain but rather as a "normal" conduct. And if we relieve strain in our body then our mind will feel it too and will apply released resources to other things and this relaxation will spread to ther regions. | Agree with you, Ira! It takes patience and skill to actually learn where those tensions are, and then a good work with ego to admit that we've been doing something wrong with ourselves...   _________________ Не пытайся - делай.
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Haveunique писал(а): | Gra-ach писал(а): | Actually it was one of the points of relaxation seminar I attended. The trainer said that our brain and therefore body is so used to the strain that it doesn't feel it anymore as strain but rather as a "normal" conduct. And if we relieve strain in our body then our mind will feel it too and will apply released resources to other things and this relaxation will spread to ther regions. | Agree with you, Ira! It takes patience and skill to actually learn where those tensions are, and then a good work with ego to admit that we've been doing something wrong with ourselves... ![Smile](images/smiles/078.gif) |
Indeed! And this insight about tension also shows pretty well what needs to be done to reverse it   _________________ "As you think, so shall you become." - Bruce Lee
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